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Title: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on February 20, 2019, 07:50:31 PM
I have listened to everything through Brooklyn and my leader in the clubhouse is New Haven (by a pretty wide margin). Lots of improv and it is all quality. Some great shows already throughout the first 6 weeks of the year. Awesome time to be seeing/listening to UM.


Edit:  leaders in the clubhouse so far...

1/25/19 Milwaukee, WI
1/31/19 New Haven, CT
2/15/19 Brooklyn, NY
2/16/19 Brooklyn, NY
3/21/19 Jim Thorpe, PA
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on February 20, 2019, 08:15:00 PM
For my tastes, either of the first two nights of Brooklyn beat our New Haven by just a hair. New Haven might be more consistent than either (easily more so than BkN1) but the highs of either Brooklyn show outclass New Haven, which past the Robot and maybe Virtue doesnít have much I find myself coming back to. Night 1 of Brooklyn has Blue Echo, 1348 and Ringo that are all top notch (and for my tastes the Bridgeless is really good). Night 2 has Plunger, Bad Friday and to a lesser extend Red Tape and Little Gift.

Milwaukee N1 is another obvious contender
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on February 20, 2019, 09:55:36 PM
IMO:

1/25
1/31
2/16

Those are my favs, hon mention to 1/26 and 2/15.  But really any of the past 8 shows (except Albany) are good choices. 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on February 20, 2019, 10:53:03 PM
IMO:

1/25
1/31
2/16

Those are my favs, hon mention to 1/26 and 2/15.  But really any of the past 8 shows (except Albany) are good choices.

Truth. What a start to the year. And I thought last year's winTER was great.

I'm still going with New Haven.....for now. Really it's all about that 2nd set. Straight fire. The first set isn't great but the Slacker and DBK pull it into good enough territory.

I want to listen to the Brooklyn run some more but 2/16 is definitely my favorite of the run. Mantis is a legit JOTY contender, then CW2, HBB, Attachments, and Puppet > 3x > Puppet are all awesome. Its the most complete show of the BK run and probably more complete than New Haven. Just hard for me to write off that 2nd set......

1/31
2/16
2/2

Are my picks.

Also, the Jam Cruise sets are pretty great. 1/16 in particular
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on February 21, 2019, 07:18:19 AM
IMO:

1/25
1/31
2/16

Those are my favs, hon mention to 1/26 and 2/15.  But really any of the past 8 shows (except Albany) are good choices.

Truth. What a start to the year. And I thought last year's winTER was great.

I'm still going with New Haven.....for now. Really it's all about that 2nd set. Straight fire. The first set isn't great but the Slacker and DBK pull it into good enough territory.

I want to listen to the Brooklyn run some more but 2/16 is definitely my favorite of the run. Mantis is a legit JOTY contender, then CW2, HBB, Attachments, and Puppet > 3x > Puppet are all awesome. Its the most complete show of the BK run and probably more complete than New Haven. Just hard for me to write off that 2nd set......

1/31
2/16
2/2

Are my picks.

Also, the Jam Cruise sets are pretty great. 1/16 in particular

This is how I'm feeling as well. Got through all BK shows this week and I keep coming back to the Saturday highlights. Really enjoy New Haven too. Top two so far:

2/16
1/31

Need to go back and relisten to the MKE shows but I remember 1/25 being outstanding so that will probably round out my top three
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: jolson523 on February 21, 2019, 07:58:41 AM
2/16 isnít even the best show of that run.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: opsopcopolis on February 21, 2019, 08:01:21 AM
2/16 isnít even the best show of that run.

Yup
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on February 21, 2019, 08:19:14 AM
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Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on February 22, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
The show I keep coming back to is 2/14. Despite being a 15 song show, there are 4 huge songs here in Blue Echo, Ringo, 1348 and Bridgeless. Out of any show this year, it's got the most replay value so far IMO.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 13, 2019, 08:09:29 PM
I haven't listened to a lot of other shows this year to declare it SOTY but I'll suggest 3/9 Seattle for consideration.

Great song selection, varied and quality improv in Jimmy, Conduit, Draco, Junk, Booth, and IC. The only nitpicks about this show for me are the TLS jam in rocker2 and that the Floor got played instead of fancy reprise.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 13, 2019, 08:28:06 PM
Still New Haven for me. Some quality contenders though.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 13, 2019, 08:28:42 PM
Still New Haven for me. Some quality contenders though.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 13, 2019, 09:55:55 PM
2/15 still king. Plunger > T&D, Bad Friday, Red Tape, Little Gift...
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on March 14, 2019, 07:34:28 AM
I feel like 2.22 is super underrated in this discussion.  That is a really consistent show and while it lacks two or three JOTY quality jams, every piece of improv is good and the song selection is way better than 1.31 and 2.15.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Kev347 on March 14, 2019, 07:47:59 AM
Still New Haven for me. Some quality contenders though.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on March 14, 2019, 08:12:59 AM
New Haven is great but the first set leaves a lot to be desired IMO.  Second set is fire for sure, the trio of huge peaking jams in RW, Higgins, and Virtue is pure locked in UM. 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: mja271 on March 14, 2019, 09:47:02 AM
I'd feel a little more comfortable saying New Haven if the standalone DBK was a bit stronger.  The Slacker in S1 is great and a big DBK in theory is enough to make up for the meh song selection otherwise, but it's just not that noteworthy of a version and makes the show feel a bit less complete overall.  But the second set is so damn good it's still in contention for SOTY. 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
They could've played 9 No Diablos in a row in the first set and a standard Little Gift encore and I would still say 1/31 SOTY. I do think 2/16 and 3/9 are more complete shows though...hence the tough competition.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 10:16:40 AM
I liked New Haven a lot but would still take 2/15 over it in a heartbeat, and I also come back to 2/14 way more than New Haven. Robot World is great but it's about the only thing I ever come back to. Slacker and Virtue are the next best jams and neither of them are jams that have me wanting to listen back much.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
Oh yeah, and that Slacker jam in the first set is fire. New Haven. Case closed.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 10:21:56 AM
Oh yeah, and that Slacker jam in the first set is fire. New Haven. Case closed.

Case definitely not closed.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: jolson523 on March 14, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Oh yeah, and that Slacker jam in the first set is fire. New Haven. Case closed.

Case definitely not closed.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 12:05:23 PM
Any chance the OP can contain a list of agreed upon front runners? After reading through this, it looks like 1/31, 2/15, and 2/16 are the leaders of the pack?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 12:08:23 PM
Any chance the OP can contain a list of agreed upon front runners? After reading through this, it looks like 1/31, 2/15, and 2/16 are the leaders of the pack?

Will do.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 12:12:30 PM
1/25 should 100% be on the shortlist.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 12:16:15 PM
1/25 should 100% be on the shortlist.

Word. Thoughts on 3.9? Obvious afterlow attendance bias here but I see no glaring flaws

(Edit: dont honorable mention 3.10 unless 3.9 gets added too. Much weaker 1st and less dynamic improv overall. Weaker encore)
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 12:18:01 PM
Was going to say that would probably round out my top 5, with 3/10 replacing 2/16. I love the Mantis from 2/16 and I think it's a great show overall but my least favorite of that run and not one of the top of the year.

3/2 and 3/1 both somewhere in the mix too. Between 3/1, 3/2, 3/9 and 3/10 I'm not sure which show I like best.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 12:18:35 PM
I liked New Haven a lot but would still take 2/15 over it in a heartbeat, and I also come back to 2/14 way more than New Haven. Robot World is great but it's about the only thing I ever come back to. Slacker and Virtue are the next best jams and neither of them are jams that have me wanting to listen back much.

I think there is more to New Haven than you are giving credit to:  DBK, Higgins and Draconian are all good as well. Perhaps only on JOTY contender (RW) but like 7-8 quality pieces of improv. I think New Haven has some distance between it and the other contenders.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 12:21:04 PM
I liked New Haven a lot but would still take 2/15 over it in a heartbeat, and I also come back to 2/14 way more than New Haven. Robot World is great but it's about the only thing I ever come back to. Slacker and Virtue are the next best jams and neither of them are jams that have me wanting to listen back much.

I think there is more to New Haven than you are giving credit to:  DBK, Higgins and Draconian are all good as well. Perhaps only on JOTY contender (RW) but like 7-8 quality pieces of improv. I think New Haven has some distance between it and the other contenders.

DBK is straight up bad to me. Neither jam goes anywhere or has any energy to it IMO. Higgins and Draconian were both good but not noteworthy. Draconian would've been if it was a little longer.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 12:21:40 PM
1/25 should 100% be on the shortlist.

Word. Thoughts on 3.9? Obvious afterlow attendance bias here but I see no glaring flaws

(Edit: dont honorable mention 3.10 unless 3.9 gets added too. Much weaker 1st and less dynamic improv overall. Weaker encore)

I will round out the top five and will probably post 10 by year end. Need to relisten to 3/9 as I only skipped to the improv highlights. Love 3/10 set two though and definitely think it is one of the better shows/sets of the year so far.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 12:22:36 PM
3.9>3.10 be a country mile my bros. Don't get star struck by the length of the fir and a 5 song set containing Front Pprch. Higgins and Puppet are good too but Triangle Tear Loose Ends Upward in one set disqualify it from soty consideration to me
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
3.9>3.10 be a country mile my bros. Don't get star struck by the length of the fir and a 5 song set containing Front Pprch. Higgins and Puppet are good too but Triangle Tear Loose Ends Upward in one set disqualify it from soty consideration to me

Baylissíd
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 12:46:23 PM
3.9>3.10 be a country mile my bros. Don't get star struck by the length of the fir and a 5 song set containing Front Pprch. Higgins and Puppet are good too but Triangle Tear Loose Ends Upward in one set disqualify it from soty consideration to me

3/9 has Glory, TLS'd rocker 2, Booth, Make It Right, and Seasons, which are all pet peeve songs for me. So personally it could go tit for tat in that regard with 3/10.

Oh also, standardtown Fancy with no reprise is brutal for my tastes.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 12:58:17 PM
1/31
3/9
2/16

Is probably my top 3
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
I love Make it Right and Seasons.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 01:00:55 PM
I love Make it Right and Seasons.

+1...and Booth Love, especially w/ Ghost Note. That was great
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 01:02:24 PM
Fair criticisms, cshore. Glory rocker2 works there for me before the meat of the set. Make it Right is a good song for me and the Booth with the guests is pretty awesome. 3 10 has a set 2 puppet (a good one).

Honestly, they probably both deserve listening to. If one is one the list, the other should be?

No reprise hurt bad
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
I love Make it Right and Seasons.

I like Seasons but it's a classic case of UM running a new song into the ground for me. The combo of rough vocals, the length of the song while being standard, and Jake's utter inability to play his solo in it make it a hard one for me to enjoy live, and they just keep playing it and playing it. I know this is to be expected.

Make it Right I just straight up don't like. The opening riff is cool but the rest of the song is not for me. Especially the vocal sections which I find too cheesy.

YMMV brahs.

For the record, I liked the Booth sections with the sit in but the song as a whole still brings down just about any set for me.

They're both good shows, I don't want to make it sound like I dislike 3/9 because I think it's a good one.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on March 14, 2019, 01:08:13 PM
3.8, 3.9 and 3.10 are more "standard great" to me than top shelf UM. 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
They are playing the shit out of Seasons probably to get it down perfectly since there is a lot going on there...surprised Jake hasnít been able to pull it together yet though.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 02:02:18 PM
3.8, 3.9 and 3.10 are more "standard great" to me than top shelf UM.

with all do respect, you like the jake chug side of UM so most of your soty and joty picks are meh to me. you are an extremely versed UM fan but you only like one half of what makes this band great  :beers:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 02:08:24 PM
3.8, 3.9 and 3.10 are more "standard great" to me than top shelf UM.

with all do respect, you like the jake chug side of UM so most of your soty and joty picks are meh to me. you are an extremely versed UM fan but you only like one half of what makes this band great  :beers:

Seems a little harsh. I put Bron Yr Aur in league with guys like Kev347 and DanRad in terms of knowledgable fans that usually (but not always) align with the way I view UM and critique shows.  Pretty sure he likes and appreciates more than one half of what makes the band great...
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 02:24:38 PM
Not harsh man. No disrespect intended towards bron at all. He is a top notch borter and a discerning fan. So much so that bort group think will dictate that 3.8 3.9 and 3.10 is just standard great because bron said so and no one will ever listen to it.

I hate to drop a show count but that was 89 since 2002. I know my UM too and 3.9 is better than standard great UM.

/rant (I'm just amazed people are responding to my opinions after 12 years of borting  :popcorn: love you guys)
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 02:27:56 PM
I mean he said all ďdoĒ respect; what more could you ask for?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
I mean he said all ďdoĒ respect; what more could you ask for?
Due.  you're right. I must be a complete moron with no taste in music
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
I mean he said all ďdoĒ respect; what more could you ask for?
Due.  you're right. I must be a complete moron with no taste in music

Relax, I was just making a joke.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
I mean he said all ďdoĒ respect; what more could you ask for?
Due.  you're right. I must be a complete moron with no taste in music

Relax, I was just making a joke.

But but but but.... eh, I got nothing

I've been out of work for almost a year with an acl tear/ knee surgery recovery. Cabin fever be real. Hope yall take my post with a grain of salt
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on March 14, 2019, 06:47:58 PM
Opinions are like assholes....

Standard great used to mean really good, right? 

The difference between the top 10% of shows and the "standard great" show is pretty minute.

As far as Seattle goes, I really enjoyed the Junk...seems like folks think this should be on the JOTY list.  The Intentions jam starts out so well with the ominous groove but I wish they didn't take it down the country rock lane in the second half of the jam.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 07:31:59 PM
Country/honky tonk jams do pretty much nothing for me.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 14, 2019, 07:45:26 PM
Country/honky tonk jams do pretty much nothing for me.

Agree with this. While weíre add it repetitive cover jams (Norwegian Wood, Xxplosive, La Grange etc) are in the same camp.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 08:04:51 PM
Country/honky tonk jams do pretty much nothing for me.

Agree with this. While weíre add it repetitive cover jams (Norwegian Wood, Xxplosive, La Grange etc) are in the same camp.

Iím in the exact same camp Mikey.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
LET JAKE COUNTRY
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 08:41:07 PM
LET JAKE COUNTRY

Gross.  Donít mind Jake country songs, donít like the country jamz.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: LiquidDreams on March 14, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
LET JAKE COUNTRY

Gross.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 09:49:11 PM
Opinions are like assholes....

Yea, except everyone around here sees you post and adopts your opinion as their own.

For another classic case of bort group think, look no further than the Joty 2018 thread. Bron suggests 3.16 AIT as a joty candidate, while I suggest it is only the 3rd best jam of the show. Guess which song remains on the joty list all year while the Kitchen and the Crooked never get mentioned again? Who listened to all 3??

Look, if you value the heavy side of UM and the cock rock,Bron is an invaluable source of good heavy UM.

If you value bluesy, patient, multisectioned pieces of improv, give my suggestions a chance. Again: xx shows since 200x. Not a vfj gnoob
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 09:55:14 PM
Also that fact that 3.9 is still not in OP but 3.10 is just proves my bort think point. OP is waiting for bort elite approval to add 3.9...

 :whistle:  :P
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 14, 2019, 10:16:53 PM
Also that fact that 3.9 is still not in OP but 3.10 is just proves my bort think point. OP is waiting for bort elite approval to add 3.9...

 :whistle:  :P

I cannot honestly say what my personal soty is but it wonít be 3/9 or 3/10.  Comparing both shows for my personal tastes I can tell you why I prefer Sandpoint over Seattle.

Seattle s1 has Glory which Iím fine not hearing for a very, very long time.  It was much better when it was a somewhat rarity.  Iíd rather hear them play Sweetness once in awhile instead of only 1-2 times a year.  RP2 w TLS jam is stale as shit.  Sociable is a great tune and is stretched out but the improv doesnít really excite me in this version.  Conduit has a standard sounding Conduit jam, nothing out of the ordinary.  Love N2F but its unfinished...I love Make It Right.  L&LD is well done but Iíve heard it a bunch and Iím over it.

Sandpoint s1 has Triangle Tear to open, its one of my favorites off the new albums.  Loose Ends is whatever, I donít hate it like most but Iím indifferent on it.  The Kabump has a really cool jam and is always a treat to hear.  Mail Package is one of my least favorite originals.  Iíve always loved Linear and the jam here is really nice and melts into Upward perfectly.  Fuzz is an awesome, fun UM song and the Higgins to close has a short but sweet 5 min jam.  Edge Sandpoint.

Both set twos are very good with regards to song selection for the most part but Draconian jam does nothing for me and Iím so fucking tired of Booth Love its ridiculous.  I like all the songs in s2 of Sandpoint, Fir is a lot of fun and Front Porch is always a huge treat.  Sandpoint over Seattle bc of those factors

Encore edge goes to Seattle.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 10:32:40 PM
Thanks for the feedback PKS. I never said 3.9 was soty but its dismissal is classic bort

(Edit to say that you dis Seattle for the booth but dont menion puppet. At 400 some odd shows, I know you are sick of PS too)
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
Lol why are you treating Bron Yr Aur (or anyone for that matter) like he has the final say on all things umphreys?? He has an opinion, just like you. Isn't that what music is anyway? Subjective?

I mean especially with a band like UM. There are so many styles and they play so many shows that obviously everyone (here) is going to have something to latch on to. There's no right or wrong answer to the JOTY/SOTY discussion. If you don't like this list, keep your own.....I do. We're all a bunch of wooks anyway, who cares what we think.

 :wook:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
Lol at suggesting I am the one treating Bron's opinion like the ultimate one...

People suggested in this very thread that because Bron said something his opinion should be highly valued because he is a super knowledgable UM fan. Wait and I'll quote it.....

Lol
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 10:58:28 PM
Quote from: All Thoughts Divided

Seems a little harsh. I put Bron Yr Aur in league with guys like Kev347 and DanRad in terms of knowledgable fans that usually (but not always) align with the way I view UM and critique shows.  Pretty sure he likes and appreciates more than one half of what makes the band great...

And this is the OP that still has 3.10 and not 3.9

L O fucking L
#bort.think
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 11:01:03 PM
Speak up speak up!  :solo:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 11:02:48 PM
Idk man. ATD simply said Bron was knowledgeable and his views aligned with his own. I for one value all of the opinions in these UM discussion threads. Hearing the whole spectrum is important. It's fun to see what everyone likes and dislikes.....even if it varies greatly from my own tastes.



Btw, I'm with you on 3/9. Love that show
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 11:04:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback PKS. I never said 3.9 was soty but its dismissal is classic bort

(Edit to say that you dis Seattle for the booth but dont menion puppet. At 400 some odd shows, I know you are sick of PS too)

Brah who cares just have your own opinion. For example, I know that 5/17/18 is last yearís SOTY and any of you basic chads who disagree are wrong.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 11:22:10 PM
Thanks for the feedback PKS. I never said 3.9 was soty but its dismissal is classic bort

(Edit to say that you dis Seattle for the booth but dont menion puppet. At 400 some odd shows, I know you are sick of PS too)

Brah who cares just have your own opinion. For example, I know that 5/17/18 is last yearís SOTY and any of you basic chads who disagree are wrong.

Brah, because, just like last year's joty thread, what Bron said got held as gospel and what I said was dismissed without further examination. I don't need for my opinions to be held as gospel but I have been seeing UM and converting haters long enough to not be dismissed as not knowing the difference between standard great (3.8 ) and well above average (3 9) and great standard great (3.10) Simple as that.

Enjoy yer clique. Just trying to add to the discussion that was as dead as an old lover over the NW run; lifeless and vapid, with the same predictable moves. This whole thread just proves without a doubt the #bort.think hypothesis
.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 14, 2019, 11:24:11 PM
Maybe your opinions just suck
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 14, 2019, 11:26:14 PM
People tell me my opinions suck every other day on here. Why canít you just be like me and revel in the fact that you are smarter and have a more refined palette than everyone else
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
Maybe your opinions just suck

you agreed with my assessment but maybe they do? jake chugs and cock rock sucks. group think sucks. my summer tour prediction is pretty spot on.  :bacon:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 14, 2019, 11:31:43 PM
People tell me my opinions suck every other day on here. Why canít you just be like me and revel in the fact that you are smarter and have a more refined palette than everyone else

I mean, I kind of am tbh. If I don't stir the pot, my opinions fall off a cliff. I just want to linger on cloud 9 as long as possible
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: RyanF on March 14, 2019, 11:38:46 PM
Thanks for the feedback PKS. I never said 3.9 was soty but its dismissal is classic bort

(Edit to say that you dis Seattle for the booth but dont menion puppet. At 400 some odd shows, I know you are sick of PS too)

Brah who cares just have your own opinion. For example, I know that 5/17/18 is last yearís SOTY and any of you basic chads who disagree are wrong.

Brah, because, just like last year's soty thread, what Bron said got held as gospel and what I said was dismissed without further examination. I don't need for my opinions to be held as gospel but I have been seeing UM and converting haters long enough to not be dismissed as not knowing the difference between standard great (3.8 ) and well above average (3 9) and great standard great (3.10) Simple as that.

Enjoy yer clique. Just trying to add to the discussion that was as dead as an old lover over the NW run; lifeless and vapid, with the same predictable moves. This whole thread just proves without a doubt the #bort.think hypothesis
.

Loved this.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: sabretooth on March 15, 2019, 12:33:20 AM
lol Go to bed Phil.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 12:35:26 AM
lol Go to bed Phil.

its 10:30 i don't work til april   :0:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 02:01:40 AM
Quote from: All Thoughts Divided

Seems a little harsh. I put Bron Yr Aur in league with guys like Kev347 and DanRad in terms of knowledgable fans that usually (but not always) align with the way I view UM and critique shows.  Pretty sure he likes and appreciates more than one half of what makes the band great...

And this is the OP that still has 3.10 and not 3.9

L O fucking L
#bort.think

Are you serious dude?!!  I just posted the list today at someoneís request and said I needed to listen to 3/9 again...  Pretty sad that you are personally defending the validity and strength of a single show like it was your child...  Take a chill pill bro.

Edit:  you were the one who asked for the list a whopping 12 hours ago and now you are butthurt that ďyour showĒ isnít on it?  Holy fuck dude... 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 02:26:30 AM
Also that fact that 3.9 is still not in OP but 3.10 is just proves my bort think point. OP is waiting for bort elite approval to add 3.9...

 :whistle:  :

I keep seeing these gems in this thread... 

No the only fact is that I havenít had a chance to listen to 3/9 in the time since you asked me to compile a list in the OP.

Serious question, are you an acid casualty? 
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Pookells on March 15, 2019, 03:01:11 AM
Also that fact that 3.9 is still not in OP but 3.10 is just proves my bort think point. OP is waiting for bort elite approval to add 3.9...

 :whistle:  :

I keep seeing these gems in this thread... 

No the only fact is that I havenít had a chance to listen to 3/9 in the time since you asked me to compile a list in the OP.

Serious question, are you an acid casualty?

Give 3/9 a listen when you get the opportunity.  Well worth the listen, especially the 2nd set minus Seasons.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 03:15:04 AM


Serious question, are you an acid casualty?

Serious response: have  you eaten so little acid that you need some superfan with questionable tastes in UM to make your musical opinions for you?  (Peep my sig)

And does quick wit and seamless logic threaten you so much that you need to make petty insults about strangers' drug habits? Serious question, asking for a fiend.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 05:55:47 AM
Dude, you are going off the rails. Vibes.

Ps 89 shows?  Noob.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 15, 2019, 06:12:37 AM
Things are getting kooky in here, me likey.

I actually like Puppet String much more as a song vs Booth Love.  I enjoy the heavy rock element to UM and that is why I got into them in the first place pretty much.  White boy groove/funk driven stuff has never been my thing...it gets old real quick for me personally.  I was also at 2 shows where legos for Puppet were played (MN 07 and Holidaze 11?) so I got a soft spot for it.  Iíve seen Plunger almost 100 times since it was first played in 2004 and its still one of my favorite songs so if I like a song enough I donít mind hearing it a ton.

#100PLUNGERS

You are acting like a crazed conspiracy theorist with all the bort ďhive mindĒ comments thats why ATDís acid casualty comment actually makes sense and is pretty fucking funny.  I donít give a shit if ppl agree with me or not, you shouldnít either!

Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 06:32:04 AM
Any chance the OP can contain a list of agreed upon front runners? After reading through this, it looks like 1/31, 2/15, and 2/16 are the leaders of the pack?

Will do.

That wasnít even 24 hours ago...  The only reason I posted about the validity of Bron Yr Aurís opinions is because you went at him. I didnít Bort the rest of the day, woke up in the middle of the night to a crying 2 year old and found someone on the Bort projecting up a storm (changing sigs, referencing hive minds, starting new threads, humble bragging about show counts etc etc) all because a show he attended and liked had yet to be edited into the original post of this thread...  Holy fucking amazeballs.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on March 15, 2019, 06:36:28 AM
The fuck happened in here?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 15, 2019, 06:38:32 AM
The fuck happened in here?

A good ole fashioned Bort Meltdown!
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on March 15, 2019, 06:41:51 AM
The fuck happened in here?

A good ole fashioned Bort Meltdown!

Bad opinions and a melt? Someone give me a recap setlist please. This looks interesting:



Serious question, are you an acid casualty?

Serious response: have  you eaten so little acid that you need some superfan with questionable tastes in UM to make your musical opinions for you?  (Peep my sig)

And does quick wit and seamless logic threaten you so much that you need to make petty insults about strangers' drug habits? Serious question, asking for a fiend.

Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on March 15, 2019, 06:44:19 AM
Lmao @ terminallyphil's sig
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 06:44:48 AM
It is a little confusing because aforementioned melter changed his screen name mid melt, but worth going back through the pages and piecing it together. #peepmyshowcount. #seamlesslogic
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 15, 2019, 06:52:01 AM
I have sigs turned off, what is it?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on March 15, 2019, 06:54:37 AM
I have sigs turned off, what is it?

"I put Bron Yr Aur in league with guys like Kev347 and DanRad in terms of knowledgable fans that usually (but not always) align with the way I view UM and critique shows" - bort.group.think

"Serious question, are you an acid casualty?" - bort.group.thinker



Also hilarious to figure out who it is before he changed his name
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 15, 2019, 07:04:07 AM
The overnight name change just makes it even more hilarious.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: opsopcopolis on March 15, 2019, 07:23:15 AM
wait, what's the old handle?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 07:26:35 AM
wait, what's the old handle?

myfarm
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 07:27:50 AM
ďWe laugh we jive, we drink we hive...Ē
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: UMFree on March 15, 2019, 07:38:58 AM
I had a feeling myfarm would have a meltdown soon. Of course it happens when im on a little break from UM and not paying attention to stuff going on in here.

Even though I haven't heard any of the shows being mentioned, I can absolutely confirm that OP has the best shows of 2019 in his list.

(https://i.imgflip.com/2w3xuw.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/2w3xuw) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Southern Dan on March 15, 2019, 07:46:03 AM
Even though I haven't heard any of the shows being mentioned, I can absolutely confirm that OP has the best shows of 2019 in his list.

Thatís some A+ Hiveminding right there!!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: FussyManDutch on March 15, 2019, 07:57:16 AM
A+ meme there UMFree
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 15, 2019, 08:12:39 AM
I mean he said all ďdoĒ respect; what more could you ask for?
Due.  you're right. I must be a complete moron with no taste in music

Relax, I was just making a joke.

But but but but.... eh, I got nothing

I've been out of work for almost a year with an acl tear/ knee surgery recovery. Cabin fever be real. Hope yall take my post with a grain of salt

Kind of hard to take your post with a grain of salt when 6 hours later you are melting as hard as I can remember anyone melting on Bort 2.0...  Changing handles and sigs, dropping conspiracy theories about Bort hive mind, referencing other threads you are butthurt about bc your opinion wasnít validated there, prefacing you donít like to brag about your show count only to reveal it is a Herculean 89 shows and going completely off the rails... 

For what exactly?

Because I told you I had to relisten to 3/9 and subsequently didnít add it to ďthe listĒ that you asked for a mere 6 hours earlier...  Your request isnít even a day old at this point. For future reference, how quickly from you suggesting something gets added does it need to happen so that we can avoid future episodes like this one?  Clearly anybody who curates a list (at your request) needs to be on their game...

You can probably use a hug. Hope you are OK dude.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: slowciableslowdor on March 15, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
This is amazing..
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: jolson523 on March 15, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
This is amazing..
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: slowciableslowdor on March 15, 2019, 10:57:18 AM
89 shows in 17 years is less than ten a year. that's some serious noob shit. get bent

#teamhivemind
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 15, 2019, 10:59:12 AM
Can we stop getting on this guyís case? Both him and the whole bort need to mellow out

Also:

any tune can improv of u make it into a sandwich 😋
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 15, 2019, 11:01:38 AM
A+ meme there UMFree
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 11:09:40 AM
Any chance the OP can contain a list of agreed upon front runners? After reading through this, it looks like 1/31, 2/15, and 2/16 are the leaders of the pack?

Will do.

That wasnít even 24 hours ago...  The only reason I posted about the validity of Bron Yr Aurís opinions is because you went at him.

Bro, you couldnt even just add 3.9 it it the OP until you heard it but you left 3.10 there cause your bort bros said so.

If you think I "went at Bron" then you have thin skin an cant take some internet humor. I never went as him or insulted his intelligence. I kept if civil. You became an asshole by questioning my psychological well being. ..!

Me going after Bron:
3.8, 3.9 and 3.10 are more "standard great" to me than top shelf UM.

with all do respect, you like the jake chug side of UM so most of your soty and joty picks are meh to me. you are an extremely versed UM fan but you only like one half of what makes this band great  :beers:

Seems a little harsh. I put Bron Yr Aur in league with guys like Kev347 and DanRad in terms of knowledgable fans that usually (but not always) align with the way I view UM and critique shows. 

 That is going after him? Just trying to add to the discussion and thanks for the sig material. Bort.think is now immortalized in my sig. Same with your rude questions about my drug use

PS peep my comic book guy pic. That's in honor of all my hive mind bort bros. Does mom need to grab you more mtn dew from the store, hun?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 15, 2019, 11:13:33 AM
I thought Albany 2/1 was a fire show but nobody else did, so naturally I went crazy and posted a new SOTY thread to showcase it
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 11:13:42 AM
89 shows in 17 years is less than ten a year. that's some serious noob shit. get bent

#teamhivemind

Pretty good for someone who sees lost of his shows in the WC. Better than hitting 200 in 3 years like Albert Boss. In it for the long hall, not the show count.
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: StoneJackBaller on March 15, 2019, 11:22:06 AM
Man, this guy really fucking lost it
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 11:23:44 AM
Man, this guy really fucking lost it

How so homie? I am just bored. Like I have said twice elsewhere ACL tear> knee surgery > um ter > no work til April. I am going to plant my vegetable garden today. What are you going to do besides gang up on myfarm on the bort?
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: sabretooth on March 15, 2019, 11:31:56 AM
Keepin the bort interesting Phil. Love it!
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: Random Ass on March 15, 2019, 11:41:03 AM
What are you going to do besides gang up on myfarm on the bort?

I guess I could start my own 2019 SOTY thread...
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: terminallyphil on March 15, 2019, 11:49:33 AM
What are you going to do besides gang up on myfarm on the bort?

I guess I could start my own 2019 SOTY thread...

Low hanging fruit man. Hit up Bron for some fresh material
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: 3x40oz on March 15, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
any tune can improv of u make it into a sandwich 😋
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on March 23, 2019, 03:48:33 PM
Pennís Peak definitely in the mix. Just getting through the Dump and I already love this show (Milk, Comma Later and Dump all top notch).
Title: Re: SOTY 2019
Post by: cshore on March 23, 2019, 04:39:29 PM
Pennís Peak definitely in the mix. Just getting through the Dump and I already love this show (Milk, Comma Later and Dump all top notch).

Yep. Would probably say

1/25/19 Milwaukee, WI
1/31/19 New Haven, CT
2/14/19 Brooklyn, NY
2/15/19 Brooklyn, NY
3/21/19 Penn's Peak, PA