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General Category => Umphrey's Discussion => Topic started by: gatroe on January 11, 2019, 08:27:00 AM

Title: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: gatroe on January 11, 2019, 08:27:00 AM
This is an argument I consistently find myself in almost on a weekly basis. Which is the better show? Also need to know if you were in attendance at either of these shows.

The right answer is 1/27. Did not attend 11/2.

Here’s the Opscop remaster of 1/27 since the “soundcaresser” seemed to omit any low end on this recording #browningmustgo

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2l3o0u1ndv6vna/AAAprbkDLPCcgfNY_RyzlT7_a?dl=0
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Winnertakesall on January 11, 2019, 08:28:58 AM
only logged onto the bort to make this thread. Clear winner is 11/2/11. Neither show has a great SBD recording sadly.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: UncleDutchman on January 11, 2019, 08:35:17 AM
7/1/11 is the better show
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: gatroe on January 11, 2019, 08:35:34 AM
only logged onto the bort to make this thread. Clear winner is 11/2/11. Neither show has a great SBD recording sadly.

Can’t see how you can say a clear winner. They’re both top notch shows but one doesn’t have a botched #5.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Mal on January 11, 2019, 08:37:35 AM
Was at both. Not sure I'll be able to make a call. Just starting a back-to-back relisten.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Winnertakesall on January 11, 2019, 08:43:43 AM
only logged onto the bort to make this thread. Clear winner is 11/2/11. Neither show has a great SBD recording sadly.

Can’t see how you can say a clear winner. They’re both top notch shows but one doesn’t have a unplanned jam in #5.

FTFY
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Random Ass on January 11, 2019, 08:52:38 AM
1/27.  Been years since I listened to 11/2, but I remember feeling it was a bit overrated.

7/1/11 is the better show

I would rank that between 1/27 and 11/2.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: SleepytimeGorilla on January 11, 2019, 09:32:08 AM
11/2/12 is the betterest.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: smellthemitten20 on January 11, 2019, 09:35:03 AM
1/27.  Been years since I listened to 11/2, but I remember feeling it was a bit overrated.

7/1/11 is the better show

I would rank that between 1/27 and 11/2.

I think they're both overrated.  If I had to pick it'd probably be 1/27 though.  Wasn't at either show.  I'd probably take 3/4/11 over both.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: All Thoughts Divided on January 11, 2019, 09:54:26 AM
10/9/08
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: nextmovement41 on January 11, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
I like the jams and song selection much more from 1/27
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Yawnspterodactyl on January 11, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
2/21/07 is better than anything mentioned
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: cshore on January 11, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
I prefer 1/27 for the following reasons:
-I was there
-It’s better
-TGIF
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: smellthemitten20 on January 11, 2019, 11:02:28 AM
2/21/07 is better than anything mentioned

If we're throwing in non 2011 years there are probably at least a dozen shows between 2007 and 2008 that I'd take over either of these.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: DULL FILLEtED on January 11, 2019, 11:08:32 AM
I attended both. I think 1/27 is better but 11/2 is not far behind
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: UncleDutchman on January 11, 2019, 11:17:28 AM
10/9/08
best show ever
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Winnertakesall on January 11, 2019, 01:24:02 PM
Jake's tone is better in 11/2/11. This simple fact makes the show better for me.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: gatroe on January 11, 2019, 03:01:25 PM
2/21/07 is better than anything mentioned

If we're throwing in non 2011 years there are probably at least a dozen shows between 2007 and 2008 that I'd take over either of these.

We’re not. This is just to settle a debate between a bunch of chads who only fluff northeast shows.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: StoneJackBaller on January 11, 2019, 03:09:01 PM
1/27 by a mile. There a quite a few shows better than 11/2 in '11. It's not even the best show in November (11/5)

damn 2011 was a great year
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Winnertakesall on January 11, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
1/27 by a mile. There a quite a few shows better than 11/2 in '11. It's not even the best show in November (11/5)

damn 2011 was a great year

11/5 is not even close to either of these two shows
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: PKSConrad on January 11, 2019, 03:32:27 PM
2/21/07 is better than anything mentioned

Truth.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Mal on January 11, 2019, 03:46:28 PM
Lolo11/5
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: StoneJackBaller on January 11, 2019, 03:57:51 PM
Y'all crazy.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Andrusy on January 11, 2019, 05:18:46 PM
My three favorite jams from both shows come from 11/2 (LMS, BLBC, DBK first jam). Obvi 1/27 MO is a top dawg of the two shows but its a repeat.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on January 11, 2019, 05:28:57 PM
My three favorite jams from both shows come from 11/2 (LMS, BLBC, DBK first jam). Obvi 1/27 MO is a top dawg of the two shows but its a repeat.

I will lean toward 11/2 for the jams you mentioned plus Milk > #5.

That said, god damnit the Great American and Intentions Clear from 1/27 are unbelievable. 
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Hilikus on January 11, 2019, 05:58:39 PM
04/03/08 the one the only
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: StoneJackBaller on January 11, 2019, 06:00:01 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Pookells on January 11, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
11/2/11
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: WOLFpacker16 on January 11, 2019, 06:19:47 PM
I have probably listened to 11/2 more but objectively I’d say 1/27 is a better overall show. For me 11/2 drags a little in the middle of the 2nd set while 1/27 has that glorious August and massive MO in the middle.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: roodey35 on January 11, 2019, 06:26:13 PM
1/27/11- great American was absolute fire (highlight of the show), the intro to gitv was fantastic, resolution was solid. All in time 2nd set had a great jam, much obliged >ait was done well. Conduit was finally opened up. Come closer was unexpected. August had a beautiful uplifting jam w/ a Pink Floyd tease in the intro and finally front porch>hysteria>front porch was a repeat encore from 2006 lupo’s in providence, but it capped off a great night after a brutal snow storm in Boston. I give this show a solid A
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Winnertakesall on January 11, 2019, 06:33:13 PM
FWIW in a recent "Joel's favorite shows" list 11/2 made the cut while 1/27 didn't.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: StoneJackBaller on January 11, 2019, 06:35:43 PM
FWIW in a recent "Joel's favorite shows" list 11/2 made the cut while 1/27 didn't.

Fuck Joel. He's getting fat. Starting to look like Page
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Miss Angela on January 11, 2019, 07:17:21 PM
10/9/08



True story  :dj:
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: smellthemitten20 on January 12, 2019, 05:06:11 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH

2/7/08, 2/28/08, 4/3/08, 5/23/08, 6/5/08, 6/6/08, 10/4/08, 10/23/08, 11/18/08.  All better than either one of these 2011 shows.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: cshore on January 12, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH

2/7/08, 2/28/08, 4/3/08, 5/23/08, 6/5/08, 6/6/08, 10/4/08, 10/23/08, 11/18/08.  All better than either one of these 2011 shows.

How is that even possible when 1/27/11 is the best show of all time
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: iamkickinit on January 12, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH

2/7/08, 2/28/08, 4/3/08, 5/23/08, 6/5/08, 6/6/08, 10/4/08, 10/23/08, 11/18/08.  All better than either one of these 2011 shows.

How is that even possible when 1/27/11 is the best show of all time

Lol

Never really understood the 1/27/11 hype.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Miss Angela on January 12, 2019, 06:18:24 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH

2/7/08, 2/28/08, 4/3/08, 5/23/08, 6/5/08, 6/6/08, 10/4/08, 10/23/08, 11/18/08.  All better than either one of these 2011 shows.

How is that even possible when 1/27/11 is the best show of all time

That’s a bold statement really.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: sabretooth on January 12, 2019, 07:01:16 PM
Great thread - given how close the votes are (16-14 in favor 11/2/11) shows its a hard one. I'm more familiar with 11/2, so I had to give 1/27 a listen again to refresh myself. That first set is molten. Had to give the edge to 11/2 for the same reason Andrusy did - I like the jams better. But it's fucking close.


That said, 1/30 at Ram's Head Set II might be my favorite set of 2011. WBG, Hey 19 > Midnight Hour/Funkytown > Phil's > Love Supreme > Blecho > Ambient Jam > Phil's shows off UM in full glory. If a noob needed one set to see why I see UM over other jam bands, I'd show them this one. Fucking heavy, which most other bands in the scene won't touch, absolutely amazing, tight covers, and moments of absolute beauty.

Sorry for the tangent. LMS is a fucking awesome jam out of 11/2.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: DULL FILLEtED on January 12, 2019, 07:29:30 PM
11/2 grooves a little more. It's got a lot of Jake funky pocket playing, especially in the DBK, BL, LMS. GYM (RH) is probably the most proggy jam (one of the best jams of the show imo). 1/27 is more of a classic UM show. It's loose but leans a little more on the prog side and has more of a variety of styles. There's no break in fire improv  in that show. Will say that LMS in 11/2 is one of my favorite jams. Too bad it was in a small shitty venue. Would have loved to see that pulled off on a big stage with a full light rig and better PA and everything.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Bron Yr Aur on January 12, 2019, 11:00:27 PM
04/03/08 the one the only

PREACH

2/7/08, 2/28/08, 4/3/08, 5/23/08, 6/5/08, 6/6/08, 10/4/08, 10/23/08, 11/18/08.  All better than either one of these 2011 shows.

Maybe a couple of those are better but not all.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: Mags on January 15, 2019, 01:31:33 PM
Ben and I were at both. I would have to give the edge to 1/27 as its my favorite show of all time. 11/2 is top 10 though.
Title: Re: 1/27/11 vs. 11/2/11
Post by: opsopcopolis on January 15, 2019, 03:11:06 PM
Ben and I were at both. I would have to give the edge to 1/27 as its my favorite show of all time. 11/2 is top 10 though.

I go back and forth. They're both crazy consistent. I usually give the edge to 1/27 because of the sheer amount of amazing improv. 1/27 AIT > 11/2 DBK which basically makes it for me. Although the 11/2 BLBC is one of my favorite jams of all time