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cshore

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #550 on: July 11, 2019, 04:49:08 PM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #551 on: July 11, 2019, 06:40:31 PM »

I think setlists started going downhill somewhat once they started doing raw sewage stuff. Go back and look at 2011 setlists, so many of those shows were filled with classic songs. The past few years they have made an effort to incorporate the newer stuff into their sets. And while I like a lot of those songs, a lot of them are long and few have become really great jam vehicles sans draconian.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #552 on: July 11, 2019, 06:54:29 PM »

I think setlists started going downhill somewhat once they started doing raw sewage stuff. Go back and look at 2011 setlists, so many of those shows were filled with classic songs. The past few years they have made an effort to incorporate the newer stuff into their sets. And while I like a lot of those songs, a lot of them are long and few have become really great jam vehicles sans draconian.

Draconian and Remind me are really the only two that have survived though. Stinko's or Make It Right pop up now and again but not that often. I definitely felt this way around 2015-2016 but not so much anymore. I kinda miss Mad Love tbh, that song was awesome @opsopcopolis

but also #bringbackproverbial

Honestly I'm mostly just glad we don't live in a world where shit like Downtrodden and Fly Like A Beagle became regular songs

Edit: forgot about Roctopus that one exists too
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #553 on: July 11, 2019, 07:01:48 PM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #554 on: July 12, 2019, 09:58:05 AM »

Stinko's or Make It Right pop up now and again but not that often.

I could use more Stinko's.

but also #bringbackproverbial

Oh wait, wrong thread.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #555 on: July 12, 2019, 10:19:50 AM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.

I think It's You is their best record since Mantis
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #556 on: July 12, 2019, 10:28:18 AM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.

I think It's You is their best record since Mantis

I honestly probably think the same.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #557 on: July 12, 2019, 10:35:09 AM »

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #558 on: July 12, 2019, 02:28:05 PM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.

I think It's You is their best record since Mantis

I honestly probably think the same.

There are 4, mayyybe 5 good songs on that album.

And I agree.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #559 on: July 12, 2019, 03:31:48 PM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.

I think It's You is their best record since Mantis

I honestly probably think the same.

There are 4, mayyybe 5 good songs on that album.

And I agree.

I don't think there's a single song on the record that I don't like (not counting Hanging Chads.)
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #560 on: July 12, 2019, 03:33:25 PM »

I fluctuate between Mantis, SIN and AD. I definitely think studio UM has gone downhill since Mantis (INU being the absolute worst by a longshot) but I don't feel that that's a reflection of where they are as a live band, nor has it ever been.

That's the thing I've learned with jam bands - the studio albums, for the most part, aren't that great.  Mantis and Anchor Drops are both excellent, though.  And I don't mind Similar Skin at all.

I think It's You is their best record since Mantis

I honestly probably think the same.

There are 4, mayyybe 5 good songs on that album.

And I agree.

I don't think there's a single song on the record that I don't like (not counting Hanging Chads.)

Hanging chads is dope don't be a narc.

It's You is good and I might agree it's best since Mantis (although I like Similar Skin more than a lot of people here). Still, even being the best since Mantis there's a significant drop off there IMO.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #561 on: July 12, 2019, 03:35:51 PM »

XMas at Wartime eh, ok for what it is
Seasons meh
Nether yuck
Hanging Chads I've made better songs recording my bowel movements
Upward meh

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #562 on: July 12, 2019, 03:40:34 PM »

I love both Nether and Seasons. Upward is meh at shows, but fits fine on the record. Same for XMas
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #563 on: July 12, 2019, 03:44:51 PM »

Have they played Nether live yet?
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #564 on: July 12, 2019, 03:48:20 PM »

Have they played Nether live yet?

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #565 on: July 12, 2019, 03:50:14 PM »

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #566 on: July 12, 2019, 04:02:39 PM »

I love both Nether and Seasons. Upward is meh at shows, but fits fine on the record. Same for XMas

Agree with this.  Upward studio is really well done.  Love the little acoustic touches and Jake's solos have a very "live" feel.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #567 on: July 12, 2019, 04:29:46 PM »

Idk the difference between little gift and hindsight but hard pass on them both.  Similar skin is tite.  Bad Friday is good in a bright lights way, but w/o jam it's nothing.  I like no Diablo but am fine with it being shelved.

Agreed
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #568 on: July 12, 2019, 04:38:43 PM »

2 of the best jams I saw this year were in Hindsight and Little Gift
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #569 on: July 12, 2019, 04:50:53 PM »

Have they played Nether live yet?

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I'm curious why not.
Me too.  I know most of you hate it, but I think it's one of their best songs in years.  No bullshit.  Why the hell does Roctopus include the exact same riff from a different song?

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #570 on: July 12, 2019, 04:53:39 PM »

Have they played Nether live yet?

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I'm curious why not.
Me too.  I know most of you hate it, but I think it's one of their best songs in years.  No bullshit.  Why the hell does Roctopus include the exact same riff from a different song?

Why does Resolution contain the exact same riff from a different song (Front Porch)?
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #571 on: July 12, 2019, 04:54:47 PM »

Front porch has the Reso riff
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #572 on: July 12, 2019, 04:56:12 PM »

Front porch has the Reso riff

You know what I mean
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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #573 on: July 12, 2019, 05:21:52 PM »

That's a good question.  Who knows?  Seems like a bit of a different scenario to me.  FP has been played by UM from the beginning.  Reso is an ABT tune Jake brought to the band years later?  I see the FP/Reso thing more as an impromptu goof since it fits well with the other composed sections.  Kind of a DBK/Thin Air classical section, etc.

Roctopus/Nether riff was probably floating around in Jake's head (correct me if I'm wrong) for years.  The others probably thought it was a sick riff and were like "let's add that as an ending lego to a new song we want to debut live (Roctopus)" in 2016.  Just seems weird to release a new studio track two years later featuring the same lego already established in a live debut/rotation. 

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Re: Unpopular Opinions About Umphrey's McGee
« Reply #574 on: July 12, 2019, 05:30:34 PM »

Roctopus > Nether would crush.  Cannot believe it hasn't happened yet.
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